Comments on: Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:44:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.2 Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: Understanding Contraception: Your Birth Control Choices http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-60718 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:49:17 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-60718 <strong>Understanding Contraception: Your Birth Control Choices </strong> Understanding Contraception: Your Birth Control Choices Understanding Contraception: Your Birth Control Choices

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]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: S.Balitafa http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-3716 Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:10:16 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-3716 To follow the footsteps of Zuma will be a bad decision .Not all of us who are having unprotected sex with someone who is HIV+, then go 4 a shower will help us to not contract the epidemic. So guys I urge you dont follow what he did ,because you gonna face the consequences of having HIV diseases.Secondly sciences is full of uncertainties especially it`s statistics therefore should not rely on it 100% especial in these kind of scenarios. as Xolisile said act responsible To follow the footsteps of Zuma will be a bad decision .Not all of us who are having unprotected sex with someone who is HIV+, then go 4 a shower will help us to not contract the epidemic.
So guys I urge you dont follow what he did ,because you gonna face the consequences of having HIV diseases.Secondly sciences is full of uncertainties especially it`s statistics therefore should not rely on it 100%
especial in these kind of scenarios. as Xolisile said act responsible

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: xolisile http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-2141 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:26:39 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-2141 Jacob Zuma made a mistake by sleeping with this woman, and yes he should have taken better care of himself especially since he was in the forefront of the fight against HIV/Aids. But i also feel that south africans always find someone to blame for the actions we never take responsibility and be the designers of our journeys in life. look at us with apartheid we still blame being disdvantaged etc when we could be focusing our energies on the opportunities that are open to us. So No i dont think there will be a setback in the fight against Aids if you choose to listen and have sex not use a condom and take a shower it is your fault Zuma did not take and Positive person and force you to sleep with them and give you a shower, its your stupidity and your responsibility so take responsibility for them. Jacob Zuma made a mistake by sleeping with this woman, and yes he should have taken better care of himself especially since he was in the forefront of the fight against HIV/Aids. But i also feel that south africans always find someone to blame for the actions we never take responsibility and be the designers of our journeys in life. look at us with apartheid we still blame being disdvantaged etc when we could be focusing our energies on the opportunities that are open to us. So No i dont think there will be a setback in the fight against Aids if you choose to listen and have sex not use a condom and take a shower it is your fault Zuma did not take and Positive person and force you to sleep with them and give you a shower, its your stupidity and your responsibility so take responsibility for them.

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: Akhona http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-514 Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:39:13 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-514 Well isn't it just annoying when supposedly smart people say stupid things. Zuma is not a role model for up and coming young people, he is a role model for relics of the old regime. People who think we are still fighting for black liberation and should support our so called leaders even if they are in the wrong. We have a new battle now, HIV/AIDS. Sphume please don't be naive, of course what Zuma says is going to have an impact on the HIV/Aids issue. Look at how many people went ballistic over him being accused of rape. That very same group possibly consists of a large number of people who think conodms are taboo anyway. One way to measure whether or not Zuma's statements work would be to look out for a boom in the shower installation business in remote Zulu villages, because we all know that a bath isn't as good as a shower. Zuma is an irresponsible liar and his statements bout the shower just prove that he was getting desperate. And this wasn't the only lie he told the court. Well isn’t it just annoying when supposedly smart people say stupid things. Zuma is not a role model for up and coming young people, he is a role model for relics of the old regime. People who think we are still fighting for black liberation and should support our so called leaders even if they are in the wrong. We have a new battle now, HIV/AIDS. Sphume please don’t be naive, of course what Zuma says is going to have an impact on the HIV/Aids issue. Look at how many people went ballistic over him being accused of rape. That very same group possibly consists of a large number of people who think conodms are taboo anyway. One way to measure whether or not Zuma’s statements work would be to look out for a boom in the shower installation business in remote Zulu villages, because we all know that a bath isn’t as good as a shower.
Zuma is an irresponsible liar and his statements bout the shower just prove that he was getting desperate. And this wasn’t the only lie he told the court.

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: Nthambeleni http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-133 Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:41:46 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-133 I want to urge fellow young South Africans irrespective of race ethnicity and religion to continue refraining from engaging themselves in unprotected sex because recently there is nothing that can minimise their chances of contracting the HI virus. When our parents say we must go to school, they did not mean we must go there to learn to write and read only, no, but to learn how to act responsible and without misdirecting the whole nation if I can mention but a few. Good people lack of information and ignorance is very much dangerous. Unprotected sex is a dice with contracting sexual transmitted disease including the HI virus if not making a baby. Mr Jacob Zuma said that statement as another way of avoiding going to jail, but forgetting that the very same statement could mislead the soul of the society(youth) as well as tarnishing his image politically. I want to urge fellow young South Africans irrespective of race ethnicity and religion to continue refraining from engaging themselves in unprotected sex because recently there is nothing that can minimise their chances of contracting the HI virus. When our parents say we must go to school, they did not mean we must go there to learn to write and read only, no, but to learn how to act responsible and without misdirecting the whole nation if I can mention but a few. Good people lack of information and ignorance is very much dangerous. Unprotected sex is a dice with contracting sexual transmitted disease including the HI virus if not making a baby. Mr Jacob Zuma said that statement as another way of avoiding going to jail, but forgetting that the very same statement could mislead the soul of the society(youth) as well as tarnishing his image politically.

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: Anita Allen http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-103 Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:11:43 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-103 Dear Sipho and Bulelwa, Thank you for commenting. One way millions of people could have genetic scraps dubbed "viral"-whatever is through their bloodlines - vertically from father/mother genes passed on to off-spring. That's why in a very real sense one would like to make sure that close encounters of the fourth kind gives rise to off-spring with the best shot at life. It's good for the temples that house and give rise to precursor off-spring to be healthy. It has been confirmed, that there was xenogenic transfer of simian-specific viruses to humans due to widely disseminated vaccines contaminated during the culturing process in monkey-renal cells. That's another possible explanation as to how viral bits and pieces get to be archived on genomes as endogenous and passed on throughout evolutionary history as harmless passengers. Vertical transmission which has been happening ever since sexual reproduction made its entry. If something infectious were in that mix which had 100% fatality, it would run a short explosive course, and then stabilise as people gain natural immunity. HIV, incidentally, whatever it eventually turns out to be and not to be behaves like a vertically transmitted bit. These are basic facts in which science defines as nearly as it can, the reality we all live in. If a particular journalist does not "believe" in this day and age that scientific literacy is a pre-requisite to judge science issues, and a whole newsroom ascribes to this "belief", then you end up with what we've got - whole media companies taking someone's word for it that "belief" can replace hard facts. Some facts it is true are indeed hilarious, but collecting facts is what journalists are paid to do and to make sense of them, not take sides in a statistical or scientific debate. No matter how many funerals one attends, the facts as we best know them are that between 1997-2003 deaths from HIV/AIDS have remained static at between 9,000 to 10,000 per year in this country. - Anita Allen anita@theallens.co.za Dear Sipho and Bulelwa,

Thank you for commenting. One way millions of people could have genetic scraps dubbed “viral”-whatever is through their bloodlines - vertically from father/mother genes passed on to off-spring. That’s why in a very real sense one would like to make sure that close encounters of the fourth kind gives rise to off-spring with the best shot at life. It’s good for the temples that house and give rise to precursor off-spring to be healthy.

It has been confirmed, that there was xenogenic transfer of simian-specific viruses to humans due to widely disseminated vaccines contaminated during the culturing process in monkey-renal cells. That’s another possible explanation as to how viral bits and pieces get to be archived on genomes as endogenous and passed on throughout evolutionary history as harmless passengers. Vertical transmission which has been happening ever since sexual reproduction made its entry. If something infectious were in that mix which had 100% fatality, it would run a short explosive course, and then stabilise as people gain natural immunity.

HIV, incidentally, whatever it eventually turns out to be and not to be behaves like a vertically transmitted bit.

These are basic facts in which science defines as nearly as it can, the reality we all live in. If a particular journalist does not “believe” in this day and age that scientific literacy is a pre-requisite to judge science issues, and a whole newsroom ascribes to this “belief”, then you end up with what we’ve got - whole media companies taking someone’s word for it that “belief” can replace hard facts. Some facts it is true are indeed hilarious, but collecting facts is what journalists are paid to do and to make sense of them, not take sides in a statistical or scientific debate. No matter how many funerals one attends, the facts as we best know them are that between 1997-2003 deaths from HIV/AIDS have remained static at between 9,000 to 10,000 per year in this country. - Anita Allen anita@theallens.co.za

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: Bulelwa http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-83 Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:17:13 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-83 "I am not saying don’t wear condoms, safe sex is the best sex. But journalists should concentrate on gathering facts." With whatever due respect, Anita, journalists do have a system of fact-gathering (aka news gathering). Your suggestion, that journalist should scour academic journals to gather the kind of data you present to us, is hilarious. Which is more resonant, some detached citation from ScienceDirect or the number of funerals you see in your neighbourhood every Saturday? I strongly believe that being "up on the science", if it means coming up with these tranquilizing statistics you bring us, would be superlative regression. “I am not saying don’t wear condoms, safe sex is the best sex. But journalists should concentrate on gathering facts.”

With whatever due respect, Anita, journalists do have a system of fact-gathering (aka news gathering). Your suggestion, that journalist should scour academic journals to gather the kind of data you present to us, is hilarious.

Which is more resonant, some detached citation from ScienceDirect or the number of funerals you see in your neighbourhood every Saturday?

I strongly believe that being “up on the science”, if it means coming up with these tranquilizing statistics you bring us, would be superlative regression.

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: Sipho http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-76 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:38:52 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-76 Anita, come on. Most South Africans never go doctors. So how is it the pandemic spreading if (according to your logic) sex doesn't cause HIV (much), but drs do? Having unprotected sex causes HIV finished and klaar. Denialism is a disease almost as bad as HIV itself. Studies that say only someone will only contract the virus statistically 1 in 1000 times of having sex have to be flawed. Otherwise why would about 30% of South Africans have the virus? Most people probably wouldn't have sex 1000 times in thier lifetime, especially unsafe sex with a partner whose sexual history they didn't know. Anita, come on. Most South Africans never go doctors. So how is it the pandemic spreading if (according to your logic) sex doesn’t cause HIV (much), but drs do? Having unprotected sex causes HIV finished and klaar. Denialism is a disease almost as bad as HIV itself. Studies that say only someone will only contract the virus statistically 1 in 1000 times of having sex have to be flawed. Otherwise why would about 30% of South Africans have the virus? Most people probably wouldn’t have sex 1000 times in thier lifetime, especially unsafe sex with a partner whose sexual history they didn’t know.

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: Anita Allen http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-73 Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:50:28 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-73 Part of being a journalist is to be up on the science, before leaping to opinions. The importance of the evidence of Dr Hefer is that HIV is not like other sexually transmitted diseases where the chance of infection is one in four contacts. One in a 1000 contacts, quoted by Hefer, in Zuma's case is just one of the statistics coming out of such studies. Notably Padian etal. Where in about 500 discordant couples (one HIV- one HIV+) there were no incidences of infection over a five year period. I am not saying don't wear condoms, safe sex is the best sex. But journalists should concentrate on gathering facts. Gisselquist et al in 2003 reviewed the scientific literature on sexual transmission of HIV and came up with an estimate that at most only 38% of HIV+ reactions in Africa could be attributed to sexual transmission, the rest was iatrogenic - caused by the doctor/health professional. In which case, you have a better chance of testing HIV+ if you see your doctor than if you stay away. - Anita Allen, MA HDipEd BA, anita@theallens.co.za Part of being a journalist is to be up on the science, before leaping to opinions. The importance of the evidence of Dr Hefer is that HIV is not like other sexually transmitted diseases where the chance of infection is one in four contacts. One in a 1000 contacts, quoted by Hefer, in Zuma’s case is just one of the statistics coming out of such studies. Notably Padian etal. Where in about 500 discordant couples (one HIV- one HIV+) there were no incidences of infection over a five year period. I am not saying don’t wear condoms, safe sex is the best sex. But journalists should concentrate on gathering facts. Gisselquist et al in 2003 reviewed the scientific literature on sexual transmission of HIV and came up with an estimate that at most only 38% of HIV+ reactions in Africa could be attributed to sexual transmission, the rest was iatrogenic - caused by the doctor/health professional. In which case, you have a better chance of testing HIV+ if you see your doctor than if you stay away. - Anita Allen, MA HDipEd BA, anita@theallens.co.za

]]> Comment on Zuma rape trial helpful in fight against HIV/AIDS by: TUMI http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-52 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:20:57 +0000 http://www.journaids.org/blog/2006/04/07/zuma-rape-trial-helpful-in-fight-against-hivaids/#comment-52 Experts did not find a cue for this deadly virus but yet another solution by our own Deputy President JZ. Yes, Jacob Zuma he made a moving statement by saying he took a bath after having sex with the alleged Victim to minimize chances of contracting the virus it seems as if the Minister of Health did not brief her colleaqeus about this virus she is only interested in children and youth. I would like to make a freindly but agent request to HIV/AIDS activists to inform{brief} members of parliament about this deadly virus&#62;&#62;Off Recod Experts did not find a cue for this deadly virus but yet another solution by our own Deputy President JZ. Yes, Jacob Zuma he made a moving statement by saying he took a bath after having sex with the alleged Victim to minimize chances of contracting the virus it seems as if the Minister of Health did not brief her colleaqeus about this virus she is only interested in children and youth.
I would like to make a freindly but agent request to HIV/AIDS activists to inform{brief} members of parliament about this deadly virus>>Off Recod

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